Posted 27 April 2010 - 02:44 PM
Posted 28 April 2010 - 08:40 PM
Anyway, the sooner 0 A.D. gets to an alpha release, the sooner the Last Alliance work can begin, and the less chance of a fatal loss of developer interest.
Edited by Aldandil, 28 April 2010 - 08:42 PM.
Posted 28 April 2010 - 09:06 PM
Posted 30 April 2010 - 01:14 AM
I think that it would be a good idea to start a forum subcategory specifically for community contribution- concept art, proposed game mechanics, and reminders of potentially useful bits of Ardic (is there an adjective for Tolkien's world?) lore would probably all be useful to our pending development team, and it would keep us interested in the meantime.
Posted 01 May 2010 - 08:16 PM
I can't say Ykkrosh's post makes me happy.
By the way, Tolkien Enterprises does not own the First Age, the Second Age, or books such as The Silmarillion and War of the Jewels. Those are still the intellectual property of the Tolkien Estate (presumably the man's family), a completely separate group of people who are not on a mission to eliminate fan projects. Tolkien Enterprises only owns the Lord of the Rings, and probably the Hobbit. So there's no reason not to at least make First Age and Second Age Middle-Earth mods of 0 A.D.
Edited by Aldandil, 02 May 2010 - 08:19 PM.
Posted 02 May 2010 - 09:18 PM
It's very hard to make a game/mod development team work (demonstrated by TLA's eventual failure to do so), but probably not impossible (demonstrated by 0 A.D.'s not having failed yet)
Posted 02 May 2010 - 11:02 PM
I do not understand this attitude, though. These lawyers give the impression they are angry that anyone even discusses what they have read or ever mentions it by name.
Edited by Aldandil, 02 May 2010 - 11:30 PM.
Posted 03 May 2010 - 09:22 AM
It introduces a lot of uncertainty - the original TLA developers apparently discussed it a lot and thought it was worth the risk, but I'd want to be much more careful myself before putting years of work into a project and make sure nobody can reasonably dispute my right to be working on it. Just something to be aware of
Posted 08 May 2010 - 12:00 PM
Why don't they understand that as long as it's a non-profit thing, it's doing nothing to undermine them? The only thing which could possibly happen with TLA is that it detracts from LotR (or The Hobbit in years to come) game sales, simply because it's free. Even if that did happen, it's their fault for being paid game-developers who can't compete with largely unpaid ones. To me, it's completely logical - let the fans do what they want as long as they don't profit financially.
Tolkien Enterprises (and to a lesser extent Estate) should aspire to be more like LucasFilm ( ). They let the fans do practically anything. INCLUDING STUFF THEY PROFIT FROM! (Google "One Man Star Wars" if you don't believe me).
Feel free to go ahead and pick my argument apart like a brain surgeon
Edited by MrBlack103, 08 May 2010 - 12:02 PM.
Posted 09 May 2010 - 12:42 PM
Posted 04 July 2010 - 04:02 PM
a) contacting Christopher Tolkien in a written letter explaining everything including the respect and Honor we all have for his father and his fathers great works. Also including the fact that no one is trying to make any money off of this.
It's worth a shot. I can do some research to try and find a good address. I'm sure someone could draft a moving persuasive professional letter.
Renaming everything to something vague. For example, rather than having "middle earth" why not have "faraway land" ? Rather than hobbits, have "magic tiny peoples". One could do this for every name, creature, place etc. Of course the names could be better than what I came up with, but my main point is they can be vague in order to view legal action. Consider how many fantasy games have Wizards, Trolls etc. in them.
c) Host everything in a country that doesn't care, perhaps Norway? For example, DCSS decryption is technically illegal in the U.S.A. as it violates the DMCA. It circumvents dvd content scrambling so that people who run Linux can view dvd's. But its still in use and commonly downloaded to Linux boxes. See for more background information:
What work specifically has been done on this project so far? Considering all of the potential legal hassles it makes perfect sense that some people may have bailed out of the project. However, what happened to all the work that had already been done? If most people have decided to bail out, why not release what is done to the internet, perhaps someone will pick it up.
Some may know me as qaz123tfg from Age of Kings Heaven. I know project management can be a pain but it is possible. I am a member of the Phoenix Clan and worked extensively on their stats mod. I would be glad to help out as far as ideas and documentation for this project -- and in any other way possible.
Perhaps after 0 AD is released and people see how great it turned out, they will be inspired to join this project again.
Posted 04 July 2010 - 05:29 PM
I don't think there is much other then some plans and concept art for TLA. It was put on hold due to no one having time to work on it. I do think something more generic would probably be much safer and still allow individual users to make LOTR scenarios. It might work better as a mod. (Remember, 0 A.D. will let you change just about anything). By the way, I don't think that contacting Christopher Tolkien will due any good at all.
0 A.D. Gameplay and UI Developer
Posted 10 July 2010 - 09:02 PM
And as for being a mod... wasn't that what it was always going to be? A mod of 0 A.D.?
As for Generic Middle-Earth Rip-off #7564... blech, count me out. I find all such "settings" to be depressingly dull, colorless, and lifeless. They lack the flavor of Middle-Earth that makes me love Tolkien's work, and have nothing whatsoever of their own to attract me. If there won't be a TLA mod, then a generic copy wouldn't interest me at all.
Edited by Aldandil, 11 July 2010 - 03:19 AM.
Posted 10 July 2010 - 09:30 PM
I am in the process of rebuilding the WFG/0 A.D. website and would very much like to receive info on this topic from anyone who knows about it (even 2-3 paragraphs is fine).
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