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#1 User is offline   Lorian 

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Posted 22 May 2006 - 06:15 PM

Hey everyone, I usually don't stray to these parts of the forums, but I just want to point something out. There is a TLA article on Wikipedia, but it is looking very bear. I would fill it in myself, but I know close to nothing about it, so one of you guys should fill it in :P

http://en.wikipedia....e_Last_Alliance
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#2 User is offline   Lorian 

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Posted 23 May 2006 - 02:10 PM

Well as nobody has replied, I did some work on it myself. It's basically just a rewritten history page.
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Posted 23 May 2006 - 02:37 PM

Well I'll be...
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#4 User is offline   Lorian 

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Posted 23 May 2006 - 02:42 PM

Eh?

(Longest, post, ever...)
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Posted 24 May 2006 - 01:13 PM

TLA's famous! Sort of...
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#6 User is offline   Lorian 

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 02:43 PM

Lol, well I was the one to make the article in the first place, so I'm not sure if that counts...
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Posted 22 June 2006 - 04:52 AM

I just read the pinned Legal Stuff thread, about how publicity gets Arda projects sacked by the Tolkien Estate, so this has me worried for your project, actually.

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 06:40 PM

View PostEllen, on Jun 22 2006, 12:52 AM, said:

I just read the pinned Legal Stuff thread, about how publicity gets Arda projects sacked by the Tolkien Estate, so this has me worried for your project, actually.


Same. But I'm probably just overreacting.
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#9 User is offline   rohirwine 

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Posted 25 September 2006 - 12:10 PM

As long as we do not distribute anything commercial we should be safe, more so as long as we stay in development status...
...so no need to worry about our wiki thing! :)
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Posted 25 September 2006 - 07:40 PM

View Postrohirwine, on Sep 25 2006, 08:10 AM, said:

...more so as long as we stay in development status...


Ohhh, well, that explains a lot, right? :)
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#11 User is offline   rohirwine 

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Posted 11 October 2006 - 12:29 PM

Hehe, you clever guy!... :P

That doesn't explain anything mora than what i stated, believe me... ;)
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Posted 14 October 2006 - 01:24 AM

Well, I don't think it's legal to curtail noncommercial freely-distributed fan-fiction, which is in an unconventional form, perhaps, what TLA ultimately is: we're making a game of a book, instead of novelizing a story from a game. Given that TE, whichever TE it is (see the legal thread), can't keep a lid on Tolkien fan-fiction, I don't see how they could legally put a lid on us. Heck, mods for other games based on Tolkien would have even worse copyright issues, since they use two different franchises, and they still don't get booted because they are noncommercial.

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Posted 14 October 2006 - 04:52 PM

Very well done articale though it might cause problems whene were beyond the dev stage.
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#14 User is offline   rohirwine 

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Posted 16 October 2006 - 10:35 AM

View PostBeren IV, on Oct 14 2006, 03:24 AM, said:

Well, I don't think it's legal to curtail noncommercial freely-distributed fan-fiction, which is in an unconventional form, perhaps, what TLA ultimately is: we're making a game of a book, instead of novelizing a story from a game. Given that TE, whichever TE it is (see the legal thread), can't keep a lid on Tolkien fan-fiction, I don't see how they could legally put a lid on us. Heck, mods for other games based on Tolkien would have even worse copyright issues, since they use two different franchises, and they still don't get booted because they are noncommercial.


Well, usually copyrighted material has.. ...er copyright on his content for some decades after the author's death. In this case Tolkien Enterprises holds © over Lotr and Hobbit, while the professor's family holds the rights for the rest of his works. I don't know when these rights will be set free, but i'm pretty sure someone could argue that a free product involving Arda might be of damage to a potential commercial one...
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Posted 16 October 2006 - 02:08 PM

I haven't the slightest concern when it comes to this topic.
I care little for the rights held by TE&TE - they have always profitted, in one way or another, from everything that has ME in it. They have always claimed they want to protect Tolkien's works, his legacy, and watch over those who have rights to use Tolkien's works to make sure they do it with the utmost respect.
However, TE&TE is just no better than the next company.
For years, they have bullied fans, got sites banned, threat everybody under the sun with ridiculous letters... they have hung over the fans' heads like Damocles' sword, while they have gladly carried on taking the money of those same fans without a second thought. They know they greatly profit from fanfiction, fanart, mods... etc and still, they frown upon it.
A company that doesn't mind selling the rights to, let's say, EA all in the name of money (where accuracy or respect for the original material are not a priority), imho does not keep its side of the deal and therefore I do not care anymore for what they think of this project.
I have respect for intellectual property, but not for greed.
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