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[Belisarivs]

Abadu, on Aug 27 2006, 05:42 AM, said:

How can we create models if we dont have an demo with the unit files?(sorry if its an idiot question,im not a good programer)

Simply.
Download Blender and create models of units with about 300 faces. When propper models are released, you'll just scale your models to propper size (remeber, it is just bunch of vectors, so scaling doesn't hurt them at all, unlike raster graphics)

Abadu, on Aug 27 2006, 05:42 AM, said:

However,i can make some non-compromised researchs,tell me,what are you planing civs?(to i try to research)

Great.
You are free to research any nation you'd like in game. In mod "For Honour and Glory" I'm in research of Byzantines and Bohemians, so if you can choose another ones (or comment my posts about research with your ideas).

BTW, if you speak about mod "For Honour and Glory" perhaps it would be good to post questions and so in appropriate thread and not confuse this one. If not, perhaps Tathar will answer you better. Thanks.

Edited by Belisarivs, 27 August 2006 - 05:28 AM.

[Abadu]

Ok,lets start with civilization ideas(I choose a timeline from 1606 to 1775)

-The Kingdom of Spain
-The Kingdom of England
-The Kingdom of Portugal
-The Kingdom of France
-The Republic of Netherlands
-The Kingdom of Sweden

And ideas for native american nations,but I have no idea yet on how they will play:

-The Iroquois Confederation
-The Maya City-states
-The Hawaiian Kingdom
-The Guarani Tribes
-The Mapuche People
-The Apache People
-The Haida Tribes

Edited by Abadu, 02 April 2009 - 08:47 PM.

[Belisarivs]

Hm. I think, that it would be best if civs differed more. I think, that between Spain and Russia there were bigger differences than few units.

You don't have to gather informations about too many units.
I'd choose one or two nations and gather informations about them and their units as Tathar did with British (perhaps you could be more complex and make units more original).

It also would be cool to make each civ unique if it comes to units until it hurts realism and gameplay.

Just imagine that you are modder. What do you need to know to create one nation? How unique it will be ....

BTW, these pictures are cool and it is viable to post them if you want to present some unit.

My suggestions are also:
Austria-Hungaria
Prussia
Turks
Saxony
Polish (I'd love to command group of Polish pride - Husaria - Winged Hussars)
Japan (would you really forget Samurais and Kensais, me not)
China
Perhaps Americans won't hurt, but their implementation would be somehow difficult.

Edited by Belisarivs, 27 August 2006 - 08:18 PM.

[Abadu]

I will try poland,turks,austria(i dont like too much add americans because if they are add,some people could want their countrys(i would want brazil)).For me,i can search for many diferent units for each civ(of course,some can be already takened by AOE III,but this doesnt count),i only cant work with dates(for example,i have to research portugal for next week)ok?(and can i use other games units for the civs?

[Justinian]

Dear Belisarivs,

1) I live in Australia so we have different holidays to you (unless you live in Australia).

2) I am willing to give but don't know how.

[Belisarivs]

1) Ooops, I didn't count with it. I'm from Czech Republic.

2) I appreciate your willingness to help. But if you can't do it from stated resons, than I don't know how could you help.

Perhaps history research could fit you well. Simply choose some nation and find some info about its history and especially military in these times.

I'm not sure if Tathar mentioned time period in his mod, but if it will be sequel to my mod I guess, that it will start at the end of 15th century and end in 18th century or so.

[Belisarivs]

BTW, I've found this and this. Perhaps you could contact Cegorah (but he is very busy now as he mentioned).

Edited by Belisarivs, 13 September 2006 - 05:33 PM.

[cegorach]

If you need any help with :

Poland, Russia, Iroquis, Aztecs, Inca, Mapuche (if these are here) or generally ANYTHING from the XVIth and XVIIth century I have enough knowledge to assist this mod with necessary information.

I am largerly responsible for Pike and Musket mod for TW series and I have most of reseacrch already done.


BTW Poland was indirectly a colonial power for a couple of years - its vasal state Courland had Tobago untill it was taken by the Dutch in 1660s.


Regards Cegorach

[Belisarivs]

I guess, that this mod has timeframe which will fit you best.
I think, that it takes part in same time as your PMTW mod.
So you are free to post anything relating your mod, I think.

[FirePowa8]

I can also help you with the Haudenosaunee/Iroquois, as well as neighbouring tribes.

[Abadu]

Some stuff for civs:
-Italy(venice):
Bombard
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Dragoons
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Lifeguard Halberdier(lifeguard of morosini),bombardier and carabineer(lifeguard of morosini)
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Light Cavalry(the 2 one)
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Carabineers
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Bersaglieri
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Kight,handgunner and halberdier(early units)
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Carabineer,general and lancer
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Fusilers

Hussar,dragoon and trumpeteer
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Venetian halberdiers
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Elmeti
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Vatican siwss guards
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Buildings
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-Portugal
Caçador
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Arcabuzeiro
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Arcabuzeiro de goa
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Musketeer
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Piqueiro pesado
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Alferes(flag carrier)
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Halberdiers
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Settlers
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Piqueiro leve
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Infantaria do porto
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Dragões(dragoons)
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Lanceiro(Lancer)
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Caravela
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Buildings
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-Netherland
Watergeuzen(noble soldier)
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Halberdier
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Pikeman
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harquebuiser(ruyter?)
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Musketeer
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Belgian light dragoons
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Fusilers
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Red lancers
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Hussar
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Grenadier
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Fluyt
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Buildings
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-France
Black musketeers
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Musketeer
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Tirailleurs
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Chasseurs a cheval
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Hussars
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Dragoons
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Cuirassiers
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Lancers
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Gendarmerie d'Élite
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Carabinier
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Pikeman
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Old guard grenadier
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Young Guard
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Horse grenadiers
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Barge ship
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Buildings
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-British
King's german light dragoon
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Gentleman at arms
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Beefeater
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Pistol cavalry
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Life guards
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Crimean Heavy dragoons
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Heavy dragoons
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Light dragoons
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Lancer
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Hussar
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Redcoat
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Highlander
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Longbowman
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Greenjacket
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Man-o-war
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buildings
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-Spain
Rodelero
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Piquero
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Alabardero
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Bestero
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Guerrillero
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Conquistador
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Musketeer
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Tercio
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Light infantry
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Lancero
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Early cavalry
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Hussar
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Galeão
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buildings
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Edited by Abadu, 02 November 2006 - 09:52 PM.

[Abadu]

The final civs:
-Russia
Strelet
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Boyar cavalry
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Mounted jaeger
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Spearman
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Archer
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Lifeguard
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Licorne howitizer
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Jaeger
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Akhtyrsk Hussars
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Hussar,dragoon and musketeer
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Dragoon
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Cuirassier
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cossack
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pavlov grenadier
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-Sweden
Karoliner(karoliner Kavalleri)
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Fusiler[Fysiljär(karoliner Fysiljär)]
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pikeman(Pikenerare)
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Dragoner
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Hussar(husar)
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Cuirassier(Kyrassiär)
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Grenadier(Grenadjär)
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Buildings
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[FirePowa8]

Any Prussians planned?

[Abadu]

Well,i was planing them,but to diferent units,we would have to use other germanic nations(poland,austria,swiz) units,but all the civs here had a colony in the "new world",while prussians dont had any,but i could research some prussian units...

[FirePowa8]

I think the Prussians had a colony in Venezuela.

[Abadu]

So,lets add german instead of prussia(contain austria and swizz) and pherpaps some arab civ...
Some natives:
-Inca
inti maceman,huaminca spearman and cuzco axeman

Cola pikeman

noble "halberdier"

Chasqui scout

Andean slinger

Inca shaman
-Aztec
Cuahchic

Jaguar warriors

Warrior priest

Noble archer

peasant spearman

Spearman

Coyote warriors

-Maya
Spearman

Jaguar spearman

Jungle Bowman

Javelin trower

Quetzal warrior

Feathered archer



Latter i post other natives

[FirePowa8]

Hope you don't mind, I'm going to post some Iroquois units.

Rifleman with Club (original tomahawk)


Chief


Aenna


Tomahawk Clubman


Tomahawk Axeman


Female villager; False face society Shaman; male villager/late period soldier


Allied spearman


Cavalry rifleman


Cavalry Clubman

(would be better with a tomahawk club like the ones in other picturess)

Mantlet



Ram

[Abadu]

Well,i realy dont like the 3 units with tomahawk in name,its best only the exeman have tomahawk in name.The ideas are very good,but looks like b]to much with AOE III
Other units for the natives:
Inca shaman(inti priest)

Inca chief

Iroquois chief(the other is best for the rifleman)

Aztec chief

Aztec priest

Mayan shaman

Mayan chief

[FirePowa8]

Those names aren't definite, just descriptions of the soldier.

I disagree that the chief should be a rifleman. Iroquois chiefs had capes over their right shoulders, like the one in the picture I posted. The sprite you posted just looks like a regular Great Lakes soldier to me, not even necessarily Iroquois.

The Inca also did not have horizontal feather headdresses like the ones pictured in those sprites, they actually had front-to back ones or none at all, if I remember right.

[Abadu]

Well,the problem is that the rifleman looks like too much with the tomahawk.The sprite is from american conquest,i dont think its good enough to be the iroquois chief,it was only a sugestion.
About the inca sprites,we dont need to use this for the chief,but the priest is very good,dont you think?
But now,more pictures:

inca noble poleaxeman

aztec eagle warrior
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-Sioux
archer

spearman

buffalo soldier(atack with bow and spear)

sioux brave(atack with rifle and axe)

pikeman

wolf scout

cheyene dog soldier


Light spear cavalry

Archer raider

Feather heavy lancers(ok,its a dumb name)

repearting rifleman


chief

Buffalo soldier

Spearman(very good in my opinion)

Lakota mounted axe


-Seminole
mounted rifleman


musketeer

archer

rifleman


-Hopi
Spearman

Snake priest

Archer

shooter

chief


-Inuit
Archer

Harpooner

Spearman

Dog sled

Umiak

Kayak


-Hawaiians
Koa swordsman
(the one with the "sword")
Koa maceman

Huna-lewa skirmish

Papa kaua pikeman


Kamehameha's canonner

Polynesian canoe

buildings(this picture is just wonderfull)


-Haida
Archer
Clubman
Chief
go thought the pages
Canoe

Woodsman(a dumb created name)

Shaman clothes


I think that i finish the N. America natives,i will start the others latter,but if someone have a sugestion for N amercian native,just say(especialy if its from the rockies)

Edited by Abadu, 27 September 2006 - 11:19 PM.