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And it isn't truth that in Sahara there is no life.
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Posted 07 January 2008 - 02:51 PM
I'm fairly positive that "sustainable human existence" is possible, but what about developement?
If we continue to believe on never ending (or ever lasting) growth, it's mathematial we'll finish avaible resources soon or later.
The keyword should be "sustainable preservation of human life within earth ecosistem", wich asks for a strong reduction of economic growth, imho...
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Posted 07 January 2008 - 03:39 PM
I believe, that there is possibility of economical growth and improvement of ecosystem.
Compare pot communist states. Lower level of economical development and quality of ecosystem than in western Europe.
I'm from Czech Republic, so I know what I'm talking about. Together with economical growth also our nature slowly recovers from impact done by communist government.
Edited by Belisarivs, 07 January 2008 - 03:39 PM.
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Posted 07 January 2008 - 06:38 PM
It's sure that western and developed countries tend to be more careful with their environment, it's a completely different pair of shoes when talking about our politics when we have to grab some more oil, wood, or food from other less developed areas.
This kind of attitude isn't confined to environmental issues alone, of course, but extend to other areas as well (social security, direct interference with other countries politics etc., etc.).
The problem is simple, imho: how long will Mother Earth allow us to behaive like this?
Other dominant families of organisms (dynosaurs, as istance) have been wiped from the face of Earth, probably for climatic changes wich they were slow to adapt to.
Imho, the issue is if we are so confident to have a try of a similar ordeal, or if we prefer not to push our environment beyond the limit...
Edited by rohirwine, 07 January 2008 - 06:41 PM.
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Posted 10 January 2008 - 01:13 AM
We'll be looking like Coruscant in Star Wars in no time, I imagine.
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Posted 10 January 2008 - 08:50 AM
It's true, for istance, that we have technology on our side, the problem is that technology needs a somewhat healthy economy behind it to be of any help. It's doubtless that a major climatic crisis would bring a major economic one, thus limiting the soothing effects of technology.
Plus, the majority of humanity does not have access to the technology needed to survive in an hostile climate, and this could lead to a major social turmoil, on a planetary scale.
Think about emigration flows of these days, it's probable that they would increase in scale, and become much more violent.
As you said we have technology, wich could help to recover after a major climatic crisis.
My point is: why not intervene before?
Edited by rohirwine, 10 January 2008 - 08:51 AM.
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Posted 10 January 2008 - 06:09 PM
Titus Ultor, on Jan 10 2008, 02:13 AM, said:
Disaster in New Orleans proved you wrong. In two days whole society collapsed. Only few would survive such disaster in global size.
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Posted 10 January 2008 - 09:56 PM
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While Katrina was a disaster by any measure, the reports of society breaking down and widespread murder and rape were debunked months after the fact. It's one of those things where the sensationalist headline is at the top of the front page, but the retraction months later is put back on page 8.
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Posted 11 January 2008 - 10:04 AM
Keep in mind that it was just local disaster. US government could deal with it.
But what if whole world was hit? And it doesn't necessarily must be hurricane.
What about Black death and its followers like H5N1, or poor harvest leading to famine?
Yes, every state keeps reserves, but still.
Would really be men able to deal with it? Wouldn't society collapse?
Edited by Belisarivs, 11 January 2008 - 10:07 AM.
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Posted 11 January 2008 - 11:49 AM
Hopefully it will adapt, but with great costs and loss of human life.
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Posted 09 February 2008 - 02:24 AM
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If we do become Coruscant in the next few centuries, than we need to start developing massive cloning facilities for humans, and begin constructing orbital shipyards and mass produce impressive wedge shaped capital ships.
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Great Global Warming Swindle
This is not like An Inconvenient Truth. There is no political motivation here. It is the seldom heard opinion of a surprisingly large body of scientists who want to get the truth out.



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