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#1 Mythos_Ruler

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 07:01 PM

Some ideas for the Ptolemaic Egyptians. 305BC - 30BC. We can eventually probably add them to the game (after the Mauryans and assuming programming for the game will take at least another 3 or 4 alphas).

http://en.wikipedia....Ptolemaic_Egypt

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Infantry

  • Machimoi (Egyptian) Pikeman (Inf.Spear) Ref. 1,
  • Galatian Mercenary Swordsman (Inf.Sword)
  • Libyan Skirmisher (Inf.Jav) or Thureophoros (Heavy skirmisher)
  • Judean Slinger (Inf.Sling)
  • Nubian Archer (Inf.Bow) Ref. 1,

Cavalry

  • "Tarantine" Skirmish Cavalry (Cav.Jav)
  • Macedonian Klereukos Cavalry (Cav.Spear)
  • Nabataean Camel Riders (Cav. Sword)

Champions

  • Agema Basilikos (King's Guard Cavalry) Ref. 1,
  • North African Towered War Elephant (siege capability) Ref. 1,

Heroes

  • Ptolemaios I Soter
  • Ptolemaios IV Philopater
  • Cleopatra VII
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  • Lithobolos (standard Stone Thrower)
  • Polybolos (Bolt Shooter, shoots 5 bolts at once)
  • Siege Tower
Ships
  • Fishing Boat
  • Trade Ship
  • Bireme
  • Trireme
  • Quinquereme

Special Buildings

  • Lighthouse (build on shoreline, like a dock)
  • Library (researches technologies)

Wonder

  • Temple of Edfu

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#2 Lion.Kanzen

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 07:39 PM

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Judean Slinger (Inf.Sling)

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"Tarantine" Skirmish Cavalry (Cav.Jav)
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Edited by Lion.Kanzen, 10 January 2013 - 05:47 AM.

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#3 Lion.Kanzen

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 07:48 PM

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:00 PM

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When Ptolemy I saw that the wealth of Egypt depended on the participation of both Egyptians and Greeks in helping the economic progress and stability of the country, he found a solution that would aid both cultures, Egyptian and Hellenic integrate efficiently- the worship of the gods. The kings wanted to be seen as rulers as well as pharaohs. Indeed, Ptolemy V Epiphanes was crowed at Memphis according the Egyptian tradition.
So, the history of Ancient Egypt was not lost for ever. Many of the huge temples, built by the great kings of the past, were still standing among the palms in the desert, and the traditional ritual was carried on in them. In the ancient language, to the old gods, by priests of the olden style, with white linen robes and shaven heads the religion known to the Pharaohs lived on. The divine animals: bulls and rams and crocodiles, were still fed and worshipped, old customs remembered and faithfully executed like in ages past.
It was the priesthood, mainly confined to particular families who could trace their blood lines through the generations, which now constituted the only native aristocracy present in a world of Hellenic overlords. It was to them in the prestige of their office, their corporate wealth, and their sacred learning, that the common people looked as their national guides and leaders.
Ptolemy formed a committee of Egyptian and Greek scholars to carry out his conceptual idea. The committee decided that the new religion would have at its core, a triad consisting of Isis, her son Harpocrates and Serapis (originally an Egyptian deity called Osir-Apis)
This triad was introduced to the Greeks in a Greek style and to the Egyptians in an Egyptian fashion. While Ptolemy the First established the worship of Serapis, it was Ptolemy the Third who constructed the great temple for this deity in Alexandria.


Edited by Lion.Kanzen, 08 January 2013 - 10:33 PM.

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#5 lilstewie

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:29 PM

Oh man. I'm excited if you'll add them.
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#6 Lion.Kanzen

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:32 PM

Oh man. I'm excited if you'll add them.

common man help me to find info ;)
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:32 PM

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native pike men

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#8 Lion.Kanzen

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:37 PM

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:41 PM

common man help me to find info ;)


I'll try, but I just dont know much about them.

Do the soldier still compose of mostly Greeks, or native Egyptians?
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:43 PM

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Native Spearmen

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Native Skirmishers

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Native Slingers

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Native Pikemen

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:56 PM

I think they should have something which represents their well developed irrigation systems. Like a farming bonus when close to water.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 11:36 PM

I think they should have something which represents their well developed irrigation systems. Like a farming bonus when close to water.

Just as a reference, Rise of Nations's Egyptians had a farm build limit of 7, while all others had a limit of 5.
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 11:58 PM

I am not in favor of the Galatian heavy swordsmen to represent Ptolemaic Eqypt. I would replace the swordsmen with the marines (ill look up their names later). I remember reading several articles that supported many variants of Egyptian-Greco native troops.
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#14 Lion.Kanzen

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:17 AM

I propose this as Civ Emblem.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:31 AM

I like that symbol. If you want to try anything else, you can make a symbol of the Pharos Lighthouse.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:38 AM

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you mean with this?
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 01:21 AM

Yeah. I'm reading a book called Alexander to Cleopatra, and the author said that the pharos lighthouse was often used as a symbol of the ptolomies.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 01:28 AM

but i need to know how looks like.

how say the book? the book have a picture?

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 02:16 AM

Im still reading the book. But the pharos lighthouse was planned by Sostratus of Cnidus and constructed under Ptolemy I Soter. The structure was completed under Ptolemy II Philadelphus. (Alexander to Cleopatra, pg.37)

Other possible special buildings include temples with banks attached to them. Banks were usually owned by the wealthy, including the Native Egyptian High Priests. Alexandria's Library and museum were large features in the city.

Most, if not all of Alexandria's buildings were constructed in stone.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:53 AM

(after the Mauryans and assuming programming for the game will take at least another 2 or 3 alphas).


We can still work on them in Beta versions. :)
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